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Former CIA Analyst Says Evidence Abounds for Impeachment

by Gretel Macalester

PORTSMOUTH - The evidence for impeachment of the president and vice president is overwhelming, former CIA analyst and daily presidential briefer Ray McGovern told a room full of people at the Portsmouth Public Library Monday night.

McGovern, who provided daily briefings for former presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush as well as other high ranking officials during his 27 year CIA career, said he has witnessed a “prostitution of his profession” as the Bush administration lied to the American people about the evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

“Don’t let anyone tell you the President was deceived by false intelligence … they knew,” McGovern said.

For the next 40 minutes, he relayed a series of events leading up to 9/11 which illustrate the President’s desire to go to war with Iraq well before 9-11, that reliable CIA evidence showed that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction and was presented to the administration and the “facts were fixed” in order to legitimize the invasion.

“The estimate which said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was prepared to the terms of reference laid down by Dick Cheney in a speech on Aug. 26, 2002. It was the worst estimate of intelligence and came to the wrong conclusions, but it was designed to do that,” McGovern said.

McGovern has been an outspoken commentator on intelligence-related issues since the late 1990s and since 2002 has been publicly critical of Bush’s use of government intelligence in the lead-up to the war.

The recent report detailing Iran’s stopping its nuclear weapons program four years ago, is an example of how the administration knows it can no longer hide such “incontrovertible evidence” from the American people in the fallout from the misinformation they received on the Iraq War, McGovern said. He added that he had almost given up on believing their were people still working at the top with a conscious and enough people at the top willing to let analysts do their job and accept independent analysis.

In late 2005, Congress requested an estimate on Iranian nuclear capabilities.
“My former colleagues got really good, incontrovertible evidence that the program, such as it was, has been ordered stopped since 2003. The evidence was such that not even Dick Cheney could deny it. That’s why the report was not produced until three weeks ago,” McGovern said, adding that the Bush administration has been putting “spin” on their rhetoric ever since.

McGovern also addressed the reasoning he believes is behind the threat of war with Iran. He said he believes Israel thinks they have a pledge from the White House to deal with Iran before Bush leaves office and relayed the story of the U.S.S. Liberty, which was attacked by the Israelis in 1967 and covered up by the United States. Thirty-four U.S soldiers were killed and about 170 were seriously injured.

“It seems to me, that on June, 8, 1967, Israel realized it could literally get away with murder,” McGovern said.

McGovern said he also believes Congress will be of little help. Recently House Speaker Nancy Pelosi admitted to learning about torture and illegal eavesdropping in briefings, but said it was her understanding when briefed, that she will not share the information with anyone else, including other members of the House Intelligence Committee.

McGovern called Pelosi out on violating her oath to uphold the Constitution “against enemies, foreign or domestic” by allowing acts in violation of the Constitution to continue by not saying “diddly.”

He added that although an impeachment bill currently in Congress is gaining more support, Democrats are shying away because of the influence of lobbies and political analysts telling them to “wait it out” until the election.

Charges in the impeachment bill sponsored by Dennis Kucinich, are very detailed and “as good as any,” McGovern said, and referenced the illegal eavesdropping of American citizens. He added that the President has “admitted” to this “demonstrably impeachable offense.”

“The argument for impeachment is overwhelming,” Randy Kezar of Kingston said after the event. “Impeachment is constitutionally required.”


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At this point it's more about showing the America people that the Democratic Party is WILLING to do something about it. We all know that we won't be able to impeach the two hell spawn. Either the republicans will add one more to their already record-breaking number of filibusters this session, or it'll end in a 50/50 split and the Bush administration will claim that the fact they're still in office is a vindication of their policies, then use the conservative media machine to attack Democrats for "wasting the time of the American people rather than quickly passing the latest spending bill for the war."

It really stinks to think about how few places liberals/progressives can get a fair audience. You start to realize how backed into a corner they really are.
*Some problems are the Dems fault themselves ,
*but the ones who are really trying to create legislation get it buried in committee or locked into filibuster (If the Dems gain more seats in '08, they should move immediately to exercise their responsibility under Article 1 section 5 and expel Tom Coburn).

*The ones who try to use the mass media to deliver their message never get a fair shake "The Nuclear Option" and the Dem's unfair use of the filibuster was all the talk in '05 and '06. The Republicans aren't halfway through this session of congress and have already broken the record for number of filibusters in a session, and are just using it with the express intent of making this session look like a do-nothing congress. They can do it because they know the media is conservative.
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ThinkTanked read my blog view my photos
Dec 23, 2007 | 6:15 PM

There's already a mountain of evidence on the table for the impeachment of Dick Cheney. Dennis Kucinich has introduced the bill to impeach Cheney twice into Congress and it's supposed to be going before a special committee for review, but it seems it's dead like the first time the bill was introduced in March.

zbert read my blog
Dec 24, 2007 | 3:28 PM

When she took office, Pelosi said impeachment is permantly off the table.
Democrats and Republicans working together. Isn't that what everybody wanted?

shadows read my blog
Dec 25, 2007 | 5:13 PM

I doubt that the Democrats, Republicans, or American public in general will differ much in their ineptness.

Everyone wants someone to blame, but it all comes back to the American public that allowed and in some cases perpetuated the fraud that we are now faced with. Unfortunately the "machine" is stronger than ever and at this point some doubt exists about our return to a democracy.

Abunai read my blog view my photos
Dec 25, 2007 | 8:52 PM

Hmmm... Maybe you can go tell the American soldiers exposed to Sarin gas from an IED that went off in their face that it didn't exist...

We have the video of Skud missiles fired from Iraq and striking a hotel in Kuwait far exceeding the allowed ranges, but yet liberals don't seem to remember it.

Warheads for chem. compound mixing in flight found... Empty chem munitions in bunkers with chemcial found buried outside.

ANYONE can Google "Buried Iraqi Fighters" and see the dozens of aircraft wrapped in plastic and radar scattering camo being unburied by our soldiers...

Nuke programs, uranium everywhere, centrifuge parts and plans discovered on Iraqi scientist personal property, Contracts with N.Korea for All Up Round systems.

Polish Army discovers munitions that were leaking Blister agents, and Sadaam's own Generals testify to sorties to move weapons across Syrian border.

The WMD issue died around the same time the discovery of over 500 chem munitions were discovered up north, otherwise we wouls STILL be hearing about it.

Just because the Bush administration does not come out for a press briefing everytime we stumble across a Sarin filled artillary shell that is UNMARKED for chem agents is discovered does not mean they don't exist.

The fact is of ALL the reasons we went into Iraq, WMD was but one of many and that gets lost in the liberal pursuit of a single man...

Abunai read my blog view my photos
Dec 25, 2007 | 9:06 PM

Cont. Of course all the examples above are picked appart by liberals who never needed a shelf life, or specific quantity to qualify as a "stockpile", or mig fighters didn't have engines on them.. etc. The left just skips over the fact that engines or not, they were not allowed, AND then why were they preserved and buried then....

Portable Weather stations instead of chem systems.. (aka dual purpose equipment) OK.. if they were weather stations, then show me the application where that mobile weather info was used then...

How is it the left can dismiss ALL of the above, yet when the think they smell blood in the water for Rove they DEMAND an investigation into Valerie Plame for example...

How sweet it must be to pick and choose a core value on ethics and getting ALL the facts .. just when you want to....

My own gun comes apart and I can spread it out on a table. A liberal comes along and says, "Hey! theres no gun here..." Meanwhile the rest of us know what it is, and we continue on, while the ignorant live their lives.... Go back to sleep then... we will continue to defend you even while you pretend to support us!

Ask the folks that died in the towers if they think a bunch of men only wanting to know how to fly a plane and not land it would be a cause for alarm.... Some folks screamed warnings for a long time... just so you know... we are STILL screaming out!

You might want to listen....

Abunai read my blog view my photos
Dec 25, 2007 | 9:13 PM

I think we should Impeach the Democrats for inciting violence against our troops! Aiding and abetting the enemy, and treason!!

I bet I can make a case for that stronger than you freaks that want to impeach on WMDs...

Even Rockefeller (D) senior Democrat on Intel who ran around the middle east like Paul Revere before the Iraq war telling everyone Bush was comming!!

Clinton blew up the Chinese Embassy by mistake killing innocent Chinese, because updated mapping information for the Air Force operation could not be shared between them and Defense Mapping Agency because of Clinton's wall! This 2 YEARS before Clinton left office and what did he do to correct this problem? NOTHING!! He left it and every other problem he made for the next administration!!

So WHO should we bring charges against....

thorn read my blog view my photos
Dec 25, 2007 | 10:24 PM

Quote: bet I can make a case for that stronger than you freaks that want to impeach on WMDs...



I knew it was just a matter of time before the name calling started. BTW hot shot I'm not a member of ANY party. I just call a foul when I see one. BTW FOUL!

northton read my blog view my photos
Dec 26, 2007 | 6:41 AM

foul!!!

Bush admin: Worst ever....

zbert read my blog
Dec 26, 2007 | 4:47 PM

Abunai, we went through this before. The WMD'd didn't exist. The one they found being used as an IED was one we gave them and was from 1991, too old to be any good. The sarin gas you spoke of was found in the first gulf war and our own troops set it off accidentally.
The jets were buried 10 feet under TONS of sand. It took weeks to dig them up. Who cares why they were buried, they were useless.

zbert read my blog
Dec 26, 2007 | 4:58 PM

I gave you links to check which you ignored and then gave me three links that proved my case.

The President lied to the world about WMD's, the link between Iraq and Terrorists and the danger Iraq presented. He ordered or allowed kindapping and torture of Iraqis, Afghanis, US citizens, and other countries' citizens. He illegally invaded Iraq. These are not only Impeachment reasons but also make him a criminal against humanity.

thorn read my blog view my photos
Dec 26, 2007 | 5:09 PM

Hmmmm. seems that this very morning i heard a report that a senator has petition to start the impeachment of DC. Seems to me that the foundation is starting to crack.

Kinda makes you wonder what that was burning in the Eisenhower building two weeks ago.....

Remember it was in DC office..

zbert read my blog
Dec 26, 2007 | 5:26 PM

LOL! I was thinking the same thing when it happened!

shadows read my blog
Dec 26, 2007 | 7:22 PM

Abunai, why do the most recent opinion polls show that the troops have essentially the same opinions about the war in Iraq? It's not just the American public or the liberals that are split on their attitudes about the war.

Even a good percentage of the troops don't think that the War was a good idea.

thorn read my blog view my photos
Dec 28, 2007 | 8:22 AM

Typical the so called war machine is hiding from the truth! Abunai the truth will set you free. remove the blinds and seek the truth!

northton read my blog view my photos
Dec 28, 2007 | 10:21 PM

Amen!!!

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