SIPEDO and YOU

Good post Sipedo.

I disagree. There is no endtimes anytime soon. People turn to God and faith when things go sour as they do they decide not to fix their problems so problems get worse. Your endtimes is just a time right now where people are lazy.

No, Sip, You're not! I still love you, though, Brother!
You know that song, "Praise You In The Storm"?
I know you do! We're just hangin' tight. We know it won't be long. Blessings on you and yours, Sip!

Funny, I believe in God even when times are great! Praise him even when things aren't great. The love of Jesus will protect and guide me through all of life's storms. Thank you Sipedo.

I've been listening to the bible on the site...
Good site...
My comprehension is very different, there is a lot of wisdom, wisdom is timeless, but it seems extremely outdated in todays fast-function environment...
The book was written for a different set of values...
Discipline is godliness...
Live as christ, stay balanced...
I don't understand if one could live so divinely why others cannot do the same...
Or strive to be divine in every aspect of life, without being possesive about their savior...
If GOD personified is Jesus, than Jesus is GOD personified...`
Is Jesus as universal as the divine presence of the universe?
I don't sin, I don't like drama...
Its a conscious decision...
Thats the conlcusion I got after listining to Timothy...

Everyone is born in sin or something right?
At least the part that kept going about the oxen was outdated...

I think the problem I'm having is the seperation of Jesus and GOD, but they are one in the same...

Jesus dying for our sins is a generous gesture and I thank him for doing it...
I think I look at GOD beyond the organized religion...
I don't feel I need someone to tell me how to interpret something...
I'm all for reason, and gaining wisdom...
After listening to the whole book of Tim, this post seemed to underline a lot of negativity..
All I got from it was living divinely and selfless ,always forgiving, gain and instill wisdom, discipline is godliness in conscious, and how living as christ was the bottom line...
I believe the scripture is holy, but it is not infallible, only GOD is perfect...
It is still a book, violently pagan with sacrifice, many astrological references, where jesus represents the solar deity in religions past, the cross is the cross of the zodiac...
Mostly based on egyptian theology...
I'm not knocking or trying to prove anything,
I'm trying to learn about things i don't know...
I feel the church houses racism...
We are social animals, but to be ignorant is a personal choice that one can overcome with knowledge...
Dida you are well versed, but my self-discipline is very hard to rival...

I think I see a side of christians that, in the back of their mind they understand that sin is "human," the absolute of doing whatever they want "KNOWING all is forgiven allows them to never reach their full potential in anything, or do things

Organized religion? Would that include following the teaching of Meher Baba? Or would that fall under the category of someone telling you have to interpret something? Sorry, Gorilla, but I couldn't resist a friendly tweek :-)

You said, "I believe the scripture is holy, but it is not infallible, only GOD is perfect..." - The claim is that all scripture is "inspired by God" literally translated "God-breathed." If it is the Word of God from the perfect God, then His Word is also perfect (infallable).

You said, "It is still a book, violently pagan with sacrifice, many astrological references, where jesus represents the solar deity in religions past, the cross is the cross of the zodiac... Mostly based on egyptian theology..." - pagan is defined as irreligious, hedonistic, or polytheistic. The Bible is clearly against paganism, so any attempts by you to categorize it that was is a destortion of the text. Reference to astrology is are descriptions of the practices of other religions (or astronomy for the purpose of measuring times and season in a more scientific manner).

As for the church being racist ... the text isn't racist, people in churches that act in racist ways are not true to the biblical texts. My relationship with Christ and the truth of the Bible confronted my racist tendencies.

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When I think of paganism all I think about is the blood sacrifice of animals at altars...
Thats all it talked about for half of numbers...
I think you hit the devout christian, which I highly respect...

Maybe cuz I haven't been constantly immersed in scripture I still look at it as a storybook of morals...
Which we need more of...
cheers...^ -^

Norty, do you believe there is a distinct possibility that you could be wrong? Does that ever make you want to lay off of people who express faith in Jesus Christ? It's not a joke. Whether you are right or wrong, it's for all eternity. Are you willing to make that your legacy? Will you even have a legacy?

Sipi, you can have your own church if you like. Just tell a few thousand people that if they step on a crack, it will break their mother's back. Some of them will believe you, in spite of a lifetime of experience that proves otherwise, and will join your church. You can even mount a big vertebra on the roof for good measure.

You'll get testimonials from mothers who have suffered a broken back, thus "proving" that someone angered god by stepping on a crack.

You can then spend the rest of your lives trying to figure out which cracks are better than others, whether you should hop over the cracks or go around them, and what foods you should eat on Fridays.

ZZzzzzz...

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Yes, I am a minority for now. Yes, I was a follower, fooled as a child into believing the lies in the bible. What happened? I stopped believing things that were too outrageous to be true. I left the christian occult behind and unbrainwashed myself.

There is no reason to do that. You can find them yourself if you are willing. I am sure you have your doubts about some scripture or another don't you? God having a baby with a human and sprouting a son, like Hercules perhaps?

Do you believe that Thor is the god of thunder?
If not, why not?
Many people used to believe this to be true.

Do you believe that Osiris is the lord of the dead?
If not, why not?
Many people used to believe this to be true.

Do you believe in Allah?
If not, why not?
After all, many people believe him to be real.
Does that mean you should too?

How is it, amongst all of the deities of the world, that you chose Christianity? Did you make the decision to become a Christian after studying all of them?

Of all the tales in all the "holy" books, what made you choose to believe in Christianity over all of the other religions?

Norty, if you can't list the lies, then you need to pipe down. I have found no contradictions in Scripture both biblically and historically.

Earth created in six days - I guess you were there then.

Man swallowed by a fish - If God is real, would God not be able to sustain a man's life, even inside a fish?

Moses drank tea? And you compare it to Joseph Smith? This biblical account has not been disproven, and the geographical locations are traceable.

The Virgin Birth? I guess you were there too.

Vengeful God? No, not really. He gave everyone, not just the Jews the option to be obedient, or die. That is still the option today. Accept Jesus, or die. Nothing has changed there.

The long and short of it norty is that you're grasping at straws.

But, you're going to believe whatever it is that you want. I hope you don't mind if I pray for you. Actually, I don't care if you mind if I pray for you. I'm still gonna pray.

Muhammed and Joseph Smith are very similar in their claims to receiving divine revelation. The problem is that an evalation of their core documents do not hold up to scrutiny according to internal, external, biblographic, and historical/archeological evidence.