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I can remember a time when people often said "what is good for General Motors, is good for our Country."  The connotation being, that what is good for big business is good for our Country.

But under closer examination,  does that hold any wisdom for us today? 

There have been few administrations that have been more responsive to the demands of American big businesses than the Bush administration.  During the economic recovery from 2001 to 2004 corporate profits increased more than 60 percent.    Energy and health care costs have continued to rise  tremendously while many of the "American" corporations within those sectors have enjoyed record or near record profits.

So why are we in a financial mess that rivals the "great depression?"

Is  " what is good for big business"  also good for the taxpayers of the U.S.? 

If so, why are the taxpayers having to bail-out so many American big businesses and having to worry about such things as bank failures and unemployment?

Can't "big business" be trusted anymore?


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dreamers820 read my blog
Sep 22, 2008 | 7:11 AM

shadow i agree with you this is a problem,I to remember when that was the way of AMREICA and the people.Don't you see what i am talking about,Our way of life and what we believe in are being taking away from us and yes this is the same thing i was talking about Friday. OUR AMERICAN values are going out the window and nobody want to stop it.......

shadows read my blog
Sep 22, 2008 | 8:06 AM

dreamers, you are correct that the American way of life and values are disappearing. However, what do we do now?

You see, we can't go back to business as usual. When one thing changes, other things must change.....it's a whole new situation when you change one variable. But how to change and return as close to our American values as possible is the question?

The old ways won't work anymore, but we might be able to get close, if Americans will voice their concerns and not allow our government to simply continue on as they please. Americans have been too complacent over the last few decades. They were made to feel like it wasn't loyal to question Vietnam, and the other conflicts since. Well in my opinion as a Vietnam veteran, it is always proper and necessary to closely scrutinize and question your government, but especially when it means killing people and/or spending a lot of money.

We haven't been doing that .....and that is why we are in such a mess......the people are the ones to blame....they haven't been doing their job.

dreamers820 read my blog
Sep 22, 2008 | 8:38 AM

So wat do we do:::It starts in our local office's i guess?? If the old way is no good then why don't we have a new way. I wouldn't mind a new way as long as we the people no what is truthfully going on.

shadows read my blog
Sep 22, 2008 | 1:24 PM

Yes, it starts in our local offices. People have to investigate what their locals are doing and attend board and commission meetings and speak up. They work for us.....we don't work for them.

Government at all levels has become secretive kinda like the Soviet Union was. Palin is another example of a elected official who won't release her emails which are public documents, and even her husband won't honor a subpoena!! Just think, if you were served a subpoena and failed to appear you would probably go to jail.

What is most frightening is that she could easily become president if McCain is unable to complete his term. And McCain is part of the old guard in Washington no matter what he says. Otherwise he wouldn't still be there.

Open government is what we absolutely must demand of all elected officials. I'm afraid that until that happens things will continue to get worse. Get active in your local government...

CynPro read my blog view my photos
Sep 22, 2008 | 2:17 PM

I would love to buy American, if anything was made here.
Seems big business has moved all our jobs overseas.

Food, jewelry, toys, house products, etc. that are made
in the United States, are safer than those made in China.

Did you hear about all the sick and dying babies in China?
They used melamine so they can water down the milk and
still have it test as more nutritious so they can charge more.
Unfortunately malmaine is toxic.

Toxic drugs from China

Toxic imports from China are common.

Who's Monitoring China.

shadows read my blog
Sep 22, 2008 | 2:35 PM

So they move all of our jobs and then take back the money that we have earned over the years.....sounds like a bunch of great people. I wonder if the Chamber of commerce will support this bail out as much as they have supported illegal immigration?

BornToBeWild read my blog view my photos
Sep 22, 2008 | 2:36 PM

No they can't be trusted any more because of all the open importation of products! American made is almost extinct because of this!

thewaterrat read my blog view my photos
Sep 22, 2008 | 3:40 PM

I went to walmart with the wife, in July, looking for a US Flag for the 4th. Made in China, so I dind't buy it. An American flag, made in China?

Went to Joanna's, and found a better looking flag, Made in the USA. I didn't care about the price (maybe a dollar or two more), I just wanted my AMERICAN FLAG made in the USA...

I don't trust anyone from Washington.

truthwillsetyoufree read my blog view my photos
Sep 22, 2008 | 4:13 PM

Sorry to say, but the political process has been hi-jacked shadows...it'd be so nice if we COULD start from local offices and democratically reassume control of our country...it's just not realistic...It's going to take action not to dissimilar to the American Revolution, I believe anyway, and I just don't think there are enough people of will today... I would never plot such a thing, but it occurs to me that if someone placed a call referring to an unspecified Walmart within a given county or region, whether a sincere threat or not, they would be obligated to close every Walmart in said region to investigate. There are ways of resistance, illegal as they may be in some circumstances that do not require violence. The problem is organizing like minded individuals to do anything without a) getting plants from the feds, or b) drawing in wackjobs who denigrate the cause... I saw it happen back home with the Michigan Militia when they drew a link between the OKC bomber and the militia, even though it wasn't a militia move.

shadows read my blog
Sep 22, 2008 | 4:58 PM

I suspect that it will not be long before we will be seeing some sizable protests against action of our government. I certainly would not advocate forceful revolution, mostly innocent people would get hurt/killed. However, if people see a protest or march forming, they should certainly support it. Even protests at the local level should be organized against excesses and/or corruption in government. The water situation including rate increases and allowing commercial firms to use the water, deserve some crowds on the doorsteps of city halls across Florida.

Too much money is being collected and spent without much being accomplished. People had better stand up and be counted if they want to keep what they have!

CynPro read my blog view my photos
Sep 22, 2008 | 9:04 PM

Wish I was young again; throw a real protest like in the 60's.
What are the kids doing today? Are they all glued to games?
Where's their spunk... their American spirit?

shadows read my blog
Sep 23, 2008 | 8:09 AM

I have a friend who is eighty one years old and lives in another state, but attends local council meetings and stays current on what is happening. She is quite vocal and has been urged to run for office several times, but instead insists on her non-political role to keep the elected officials honest and open.

A person of any age can get involved......retired people have even more time to do so instead of sitting around and playing bingo. Have you ever noticed how many handicapped people in wheel chairs attend protests and rallies......quite a few!!

A lot of the kids are doing what they have been taught to do.....sit on their hands.

sipedo read my blog view my photos
Sep 23, 2008 | 1:17 PM

I once knew an elderly later like that shadows, in my home town, she was at all the council meetings, and she did make a big difference, and no council member or the mayor dare try to silence her. As I recall, when she passed on, it was all downhill for the city.

As for values? We can try and tout values from a political or religous/irreligous stand, but the reality is that lines of good and bad, honest and dishonest have been blurred by a society teaches two diametrically viewpoints are both correct and true.

We have chosen to believe lies and call it truth, and vice versa.

shadows read my blog
Sep 23, 2008 | 2:46 PM

Sipedo, excellent point. If you don't mind, I would like to explore the point about "lines of good and bad." Do you feel as though it is always possible to draw an absolute line that will indicate a certainty about what or who is right or wrong? One of the first example that comes to mind were the Salem Witch trials.

The present financial crisis might be another example to consider.

smitty read my blog
Sep 23, 2008 | 5:13 PM

What are the kids doing today? Are they all glued to games?
Where's their spunk... their American spirit?

Unfortunately this is the only America
they've ever known so to them this is normal
and they dismiss all of the hooplah as
just "more old people complaining about nothing".

Heck yes they are glued to games as well as cell phones and other stuff you'd never
imagine receiving at their age. As long
as parents raise their children to value
possessions over contributing to society,
I'm afraid it will only get worse with the generations. There are a few younger
kids out there that feel the same
way about their own generation and want
to create change so I hope not to
put them ALL into that category. I'm also
not very proud of my generation (Gen X) either
which have a seriously overblown sense of
entitlement and really dropped the ball
politically and socially.

I believe someone here said it best..."Welcome
to the ME generation." It's so true, most don't
care about seeing each other prosper anymore
as long as their nest is plushly feathered.
Values are badly skewed indeed.

sensiblejoe read my blog
Sep 23, 2008 | 11:14 PM

The problem is, big business more often than not isn't American today -- it's multinational or global at best, thanks to deregulation and uncritical "free market" policies that enabled corporate greed to ship jobs to sweatshops overseas while foreigners buy up American firms. So how does one "buy American" anymore? It's getting increasingly difficult. For all its flag-waving, Wal-Mart has nary a "Made in USA" label on its merchandise. And even popping open a Budweiser longneck to toast our country means sending one's money to Belgium.

shadows read my blog
Sep 24, 2008 | 8:06 AM

Sensiblejoe, you are correct that most corporations are not exclusively American. Most could not exist if they were entirely dependent on a shrinking American market. As the middle class and lower class become poorer as a result of falling wages, etc. corporations must attend to those emerging markets elsewhere where the middle classes are growing.

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