TavaresJim's Blog

TavaresJim...let us address what you just wrote in metaphor. Let say you were mad at your neighbor and you wanted his wife. Not only do you want her for yourself, but also to pimp her out to others. So you break in his house on a false pretense that he was a treat to the community, kill him, and then pimp her out.

Sounds nasty doesn’t it, but think about it as a parallel scenario. How do other nations view our behavior in the world? We can’t just go into sovereign nations on trump-up charges and propaganda to rip-off their natural resources. The person described in the metaphor above will sustain certain rebuke from his other neighbors, and he’ll never be trusted to enter anyone else’s home.

The war was dumb, and we need to abort this mission. We are not Vikings or Vandals. We supposed to be an honorable and trusted friend to the world and not just to the interest of greedy oil-men.

not an easy problem, we are there - wmd or no wmd.

History tells us that in that part of the world, theres always been problems.
I too believe its got better over there but a lot of those countries are run by religious fanatics or let religion dictate the running of the country.

If we are talking a muslim run country, rmember thier Koran wants them to live apart from us because we are not worthy citizens.

couple that with the fact theres different factions of the same religion , its a whole big mess I believe we were wrong to get into.

I fail to understand also why IF muslims hate us so much why theres so many of them wanting to move to the west.?

I believe also due to the threatening nature of the Iranians , we do need a presence in the mid east all the time.
and if that toothless tiger the UN fails in its diplomatic solutions with Iran, expect a few bombs to fall on thier reactors.
and when that happens, Its gonna be on !

strangely, A lot of "ordinary" Iranians have positive views of the west, its becuase of the Imams and other religious zealots that they are in this mess.

Kazzi you are off your nut ! Muslims in America have been proven to be in support of violent Muslim radicals..in simple terms American Muslims put their religion ABOVE the interest of this country.
To the post , we did not go into Iraq for oil but Iraq is the second largest oil producer in the world and when she is back in production it will help bring the price down NO MATER who she sells to. As far as us having a presence in the region “its a no brainier” we where called upon under Clinton to send troops to that region again and again ...just look at a Map (I mean it for most of you GO LOOK AT A MAP!) Iraq is located between Afghanistan and Iran and it is just south of Syria it is the perfect spot for us to have a large military standing to address problems from Africa to Russia and eastward to China....things are improving , a little by our American standard of such things but a LOT they the standards of that region ! All we need do is make it clear that we are here to stay and the benefit will be long lasting !

Jim, you may be onto something here. All the libs are crying this war was all about oil.

Why not make it so? Seize thier oilfields, and start sending crude to the US free of charge! I wonder how many will whine when gas is 50 cents a gallon!

Yeah, but they don't get thier oil for free, TavaresJism.

khazzi, you continue to make me laugh!

You are so smart, do tell us what will bring peace in Persia? Really. Explain if you can.

I need another good laugh!

Iraq is to the west of Iran....

Fact is that it's not our oil so how could we profit. Lets just say by chance that we would do something so despicable, how would we profit? Are we going to go over and drill it and sell it? No, the oil companies who pledged money to political campaigns would go over and drill it. We wouldn't see a cent and oil prices would never drop, we would probably have to pay more as they would just find some other way to justify hiking the prices.

This is a poor argument because you are under the assumption that if oil companies win you win. That's a faulty assumption and one that led us into the current situation we are in.

Not to mention the moral bankruptcy behind the premise that it's our oil to drill. I guess even republicans cant say we didn't have an ulterior motive for invading Iraq?

Under my plan, the Iraqis would extract the oil, and we would ship it to America for free.

Not all of it, just like one barrel for you, one barrel for us. One barrel for you, two barrels for us. Get the picture?
The pathetic libs have been crying all along that is the reason we went there in the first place. Everyone of them believes it anyway, so why not capitalize on thier crazy beliefs? They will never believe it is not true, so lets make it true! Then they can whine for real!

I forgot about the tax though RNC, so the price would be well over a buck a gallon even if the oil was free.

$50 a barrel triples Iraqs current GNP. Nobody would be "stealing" anything. Sorry but a "free Iraq" is not worth all the dead and broken Americans, we need something else to try & offset our losses.

True colors are coming out of the wood work like roaches in the dark. Oil prices are not going down because of increased oil flow all that much. It’s not going down because speculation is the primary cause of the price per barrel. The loop holes allowed by the oil men running the White House are designed to suck our economy dry. If the Iraq war was a contrive get rich quick plan, It has worked to perfection. Oil men have gotten richer and they’ll continue to do so. For all those who believe in the trickle down affect, God bless them.

khazzi, you are always good for a laugh.

"The answer is nothing in our lifetime."

But you will speculate upon what will make it worse.

You are SO funny! Keep the laughs coming!

I am having rib hurting laughs! I love it! Keep it coming! You are so funny! LMFAO!

TavaresJerk, this war was never about oil, as much as you and your cronies may spew.

It is all about strategic position of the US Military, and avoiding future attacks on US soil!

If you cannot see that, just go bury your head in that bikini, and wait for the end!

Yeah right. Do you really expect an intelligent answer from these knobs RNC?

These airheads are prepared to vote for Obama!

My question to them, would be why?

DUH! Bush this, Bush that! No facts, just a completely washed brain!

Which they never possessed to start with!

DaytonaDick,

It does not matter what the war was about. Be it oil, Bushes daddy issues, terror, strategic position, evil Saddam, ect... My point is we are there, we are going to be there for a long time no matter what Barrack Hussein Obama says and we may as well make it worth our while.