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I know many of Florida have opposed drilling for oil off the coast for years...but is your mind now changing with $4/gallon gas?

and opponents...what is the biggest fear? I understand the rigs would be well out to sea and not visible from any shore. and as for the environment, I don't remember any accidents or leaks in the gulf, even during the distruction of hurricanes. and as for the Exxon accident in Alaska, I think that was from importing oil from overseas...and oil drilling in the gulf or off shore would use pipelines, not ships?

What do you think? Would this eventually help bring down gas prices?

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ADeltonian read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 9:35 PM

I saw drill it, if any greenpeace monkeys come bye. Just shoot and sink their boats.

If these so called greenpeace people dont want you to use oil and fuel like that, then what are those pesty idiots running those anoying boats with?

krazzymofo read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 11:48 PM

As long as we have dumbocraps and libtards we will always be under the middle east's control.

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 7:16 AM

Republican House Speaker Marco Rubio said in an interview with the Herald that he supports oil drilling off Florida's coast "if it can be done in a manner that's safe for our environment.'' But he challenged Gov. Charlie Crist and John McCain's implication that drilling could lower gas prices anytime soon.

"For anyone to represent that someone drilling off the coast in Florida is going to lower gas prices here or anywhere in this country is disingenuous and a flawed argument,'' he said. "Oil drilling could take 10 years before any oil is pulled out of the ground, and there are a large number of leases held by oil companies that are not being exploited now. We can't say we need more until we've exploited those.''

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2008/06/ru

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FloridaBrit read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 7:22 AM

yes I agree to drill off our coast-after all the Chinese are out there 60 miles away doing it.

it wont lower a gallon of gas though, and its going to take a few years before things are up and running.

oldvamp read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 7:42 AM

Better yet, this would put a small but important dent in the dependency of far east oil. Every journey begins with the first step. If we wait twenty years before we begin to drill, we will be twenty more years behind the times and debtedness to the far east.

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 8:04 AM

"I don't remember any accidents or leaks in the gulf, even during the distruction of hurricanes."

Guess you just missed some of the stories, such as:

From: http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2004/2004-09-20-02.a
sp
Coast Guard marine safety personnel are investigating a report of a spill of 130,000 gallons of crude oil from a fuel tank located on a fixed platform and pipeline located 25 miles northeast of the Southwest Pass in the Gulf of Mexico.
A boom to contain the oil spill, and skimmers to collect the oil, were deployed to recover and control the oil's spread.
Out in the Gulf, Coast Guard personnel are monitoring the status of rigs, platforms and mobile offshore drilling units which came loose from their moorings or were damaged by Hurricane Ivan.


From: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13690-20
04Oct7_2.html
Ivan Causes Oil Pipeline Leaks in Gulf
No public announcement was made about the oil spill near Venice. Officials said there is no requirement to notify the public about an oil spill.
In waters near Louisiana's coast, all near Venice, four oil spills were being worked, Guidry said. He said there was no estimate how much oil leaked out.
"That oil is floating around all over there and everyone is picking it up," he said.
He called the leak at the Shell pipeline a medium spill. He said it was broken in two by wave action that made the pipeline look "like skip rope."


From: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/20025
11768_katplatforms22.html
Federal officials on Tuesday released reports of at least 64 spills associ

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 8:05 AM

cont
From: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/20025
11768_katplatforms22.html
Federal officials on Tuesday released reports of at least 64 spills associated with Gulf platforms after Katrina.
In the days after Hurricane Katrina, as hundreds of oil-producing platforms remained offline — and some continued to leave a conspicuous trail of petroleum in the Gulf of Mexico — federal officials insisted to Congress that they were doing everything possible to make this critical infrastructure stable during hurricanes, designing platforms to withstand Category 5 storms.
But federal and industry documents obtained by the Mobile Register show that the most-recent design criteria for offshore oil and natural-gas platforms require only that these structures withstand winds and seas typical of a borderline Category 2/Category 3 storm, well below the Category 4 and 5 winds that affected Gulf oil fields at least four times in the past five years.



From: http://www.shellnews.net/2004%20Documents/newyorktimes/
new_york_times7oct04.htm
Royal Dutch Shell Group .com
THE NEW YORK TIMES: Ivan Causes Oil Pipeline Leaks in Gulf: “In one spill at a Shell Oil Co. pipeline about 30 miles east of Venice, near the mouth of the Mississippi River, crews had gathered about 101,000 gallons of water polluted with oil.” (ShellNews.net)
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: October 7, 2004
NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Hurricane Ivan punched holes in the network of oil and natural gas pipelines in the Gulf of Mexico, causing oil and gas to leak out at numerous points along the thousands of miles

DEOP read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 8:05 AM

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By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: October 7, 2004
NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Hurricane Ivan punched holes in the network of oil and natural gas pipelines in the Gulf of Mexico, causing oil and gas to leak out at numerous points along the thousands of miles of pipelines.
By Wednesday, nearly two weeks after Ivan hit the Gulf Coast, the Minerals Management Service and the U.S. Coast Guard were unsure how many oil spills were caused by cracked pipelines. Most of the pipelines in the hurricane path were shut in and being inspected.
In one spill at a Shell Oil Co. pipeline about 30 miles east of Venice, near the mouth of the Mississippi River, crews had gathered about 101,000 gallons of water polluted with oil.

Hawkeye read my blog
Jun 23, 2008 | 8:38 AM

The common argument that the oil companies are NOT utilizing existing sites is misleading..In SOME places they ARE,, in other’s it has been determined that the available oil to be produced is either NON-EXISTANT or too little to justify the expense..MANY of those leases have been offered BACK to the Government for exchanges for more promising sites..

Also,, the claim of 10 years is likewise misleading..It takes an average of ten years to get from the point of submitting the application for the lease to the point where production begins..SAME thing for Refineries and Nuclear Power Plants and for the SAME reasons..

The VAST majority of this time is spent jumping through Government Hoops,,Going to court fighting Frivolous Environmental Lawsuits and wading through an endless string of Environmental Impact studies..
At ANY point a SINGLE judge can put a STOP to the WHOLE process..

ONCE the hurtles have been overcome and approval gets to the point where it can NO longer be denied and/or delayed,, Production can be accomplished within two years of finding an Oil Jackpot…

Both the Production of Oil and recovery efforts due to spills have come a LONG way since the Exxon Valdez incident..That’s one of the reasons one doesn’t HEAR of such stories these days..The IMPACTS have been minimized..
It should ALSO be noted that in ANY area where such reserves are found there are ALWAYS “Natural” leaks occurring all the time..Oil Seeps and sometimes FLOWS from these deposits through naturally occuring fissures in the seabed..

rexsmom read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 8:57 AM

I've always been for drilling off the coast, or anywhere else that we have reserves.

shadows read my blog
Jun 23, 2008 | 9:00 AM

With all of the arguments about the oil companies not drilling on land and offshore sites (reportedly more than 66 million acres) that have already been made available to them, why not place some new language in the new leases/contracts.

That language could include a maximum amount of time for drilling to begin and continue. Since the reasons often given for more drilling is to make the U.S. more energy independent, the leases should also include a mandate that all oil taken from these sites remain in the U.S. in the forms of gasoline and fuel oils. Otherwise the U.S. the oil companies could sell the oil/gasoline to foreign countries which would benefit the oil companies, but not the American consumer/taxpayer.

Americans already see enough of their tax money go to benefit other countries. Isn't it time to start protecting our own assets a bit more and stop giving our country away?

toddt read my blog
Jun 23, 2008 | 9:27 AM

I remember in high school (which was not that long ago) I used to be able to stop at a gas station and with the loose change in my pocket be able to make it a couple of days before I had to refill my tank.

Lets bring back....THE GOOD OL DAYS!!!

Hawkeye read my blog
Jun 23, 2008 | 9:49 AM

shadows,,YOU'RE not too far from those who are calling for Nationalizing the Oil Companies..
ala Hugo Chavez...

Though Short sighted and CONTRARY to the stated premise of MOST Democrats,, SHOULD that ever come to pass it would ONLY effect American based Oil Companies..( One simply CANNOT nationalize a FOREIGN based Oil Company )

THIS would leave MOST of our Gas and oil Suppliers such as BP and Shell,, for instance,, out in the cold so to speak..

The result would be the SAME as in ALL other countries where this Industry has been nationalized..

The United States Oil Company would secure NO better prices from overseas sources then Current Oil Companies do.SO,,

It would FORCE the opening up of ALL ASSETS and reserves here in the U.S. in order for the United States Oil Company to meet the demands ONCE satisfied by Private Industry..

Hawkeye read my blog
Jun 23, 2008 | 9:55 AM

Remember something here..ALL this talk going on about this energy crises is predicated NOT on the premise or principle of finding a way to MEET the demands for energy..They have NO interrest in THAT..Neither the Democrats nor the current crop of Democrat wannabes,,the Republicans...

It's ALL predicated on finding a way to CONTROL demands for energy..

RNC08 read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 10:00 AM

Steve why do you say that “many Floridians oppose off shore drilling” ? The facts are not in your favor ALL polls indicate that more than ¾ of Floridians are for off shore drilling ....just because we have few “hard core” democrats who have all day to yell and shout about how it won't help does not make that vocal minority any larger !
To the point even IF drilling will not bring the price of oil down (and IT always does as a matter of historical FACT) ...I am still for drilling because any oil produced here is oil produced HERE ! Evey penny of the money will go into our economy!

RNC08 read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 10:03 AM

Why does everyone opposed to drilling fall short on the “details” China is drilling off OUR east shore and Mexico is drilling off our west shore...the ability to “protect” the shore is out of our hands ! The only way we will have any control is if US oil companies do the drilling ...in short anyone who is opposed to offshore drilling is against the American economy, that would make them an enemy of this county and its people!

DeborahLakeHelen read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 12:18 PM

Either do it, or pay the greasy, Sandscorpion, Al-Qaeda, Terrorists, who are holding the American people upside down, sideways, and by the throat. (not to mention other places) Greenpeace can take a hike, and go play hopscotch with the Polar Bears, (and see who wins) we can't pansy-pants around because they are making a fuss! We're going down the tubes, and trickling fast, something needs to be done like, yesterday!

RNC08 read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 12:29 PM

...I bet non of the poster here can name the top three oil producing nations in the world with out looking it up...while you are at it look up “known oil deposits” ....then come back and tell me why it is better to drag oil around the world in tin cans that DO have spills than to produce it here in the first place ??

THE_MAN read my blog
Jun 23, 2008 | 12:48 PM

I have a great idea! All the people who are opposed to the US drilling domestically can't use products that have to use fuel to power it. Example, they won't be able to drive (that right there would help with gas prices), no more food delivered to grocery stores, etc, etc.

Hawkeye read my blog
Jun 23, 2008 | 1:10 PM

YOU will find a "Do as I say NOT as I do" attitude with these people..LOOK at GORE and his HOUSE...The amount of energy that HE uses as compared to the Normal Peons that he preaches to...It's a PERFECT example of this..

RNC08 read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 2:49 PM

I thought I was going to crack up watching Obama tell us all to “cut back” on our oil use FROM A PRIVET JET ! He has no concern about how much gas costs or who we get it from because he can afford to pay whatever it is...it is only the “little people” who will suffer....

Drmonty read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 6:16 PM

As far as drilling off Florida shores? I say GO FOR IT.

But I think the time has come for our government to NATIONALIZE gasoline. The oil companies now have us LITERALLY over a barrel.
NO PUN INTENDED. And now that we're at $4.00 per gallon, they will NEVER let it go back down to 2 bucks. I feel ok about paying 2 bucks but THAT'S IT.

OUR GOVERNMENT IS SLOPPY, GREEDY, EGO DRIVEN, AND COMPLETELY NON CARING ABOUT US, THE NORMAL CITIZEN.

It doesn't matter who is in the White House.
They're ALL losers. Because Congress won't do anything FOR the people.

I don't care if we have to DRILL IN MY BACK YARD FOR GOD'S SAKE. Get that stinkin oil out of the ground dammit, and stop all this garbage. SHUT DOWN the stinkin EPA for two years, and bring in the friggin NATIONAL GUARD if you have to in order to get the rigs up and running NOW.

PUT ME IN CHARGE, AND I SWEAR TO YOU ALL, HEADS WILL FRIGGIN ROLL. I MEAN IT.

zackboo
Jun 23, 2008 | 7:41 PM

IF WE WOULD JUST USE OUR RESERVE OIL IN ALASKA WHICH HAS OVER 30 YEARS WORTH OF OIL WE WOULD NOT BE PAYING $4.00 DOLLARS A GALLON IT WOULD STILL BE TN THE $2.50 RANGE BUT THE OIL TYCONES WOULD NOT MAKE THERE BILLIONS PER MONTH

Steve_Gehlbach read my blog
Jun 23, 2008 | 9:54 PM

thanks for the info on the spills during Ivan and Katrina...I don't remember hearing much about any environmental impact during those storms.

as for the top "producing" countries, off the top of my head I's guess Saudi Arabia, Canada, and Mexico are up there near the top.

Meb452m read my blog
Jun 23, 2008 | 10:51 PM

Nuclear is needed, but people don't like spent fuel stored in their state. They'd probably like cheaper gas if they drilled off of Florida. Energy independence will require a " two-way " street and the participation of every state that has resources to contribute. Is it worth it ? I can't answer for you, but in my case a resounding YES !!!

Sageman read my blog
Jun 24, 2008 | 1:12 AM

I think they just need to get speculators under control and that will drop prices enough that we wouldn't have to drill off our coast.

I think republicans are being the chicken's with their heads cut off here. Rather than trying to think things through it's like they are getting so nervous they wont let things right themselves, they just keep picking at the scab causing more bleeding.

When we stop picking and look for the real solution we can let things heal and right itself. Regulating oil companies is not the answer either and I will not say democrats are innocent or being patient either.

It doesn't matter though because people are giving us real solutions! Yet too many people are afraid that if we regulate speculators they might just go over seas and buy oil there. O.K., well how long do you think England or China will let their oil prices sky rocket? I guarantee the reaction in either of those countries will be far more severe than what it has been here.

The fact is their is no oil shortage and it has been documented that many hedge funds and college funds are stock piliing oil as well to boost the prices. They are in turn fueling the speculators. If there is no shortage of oil can you really justify the increase in prices?

Ericjhach read my blog view my photos
Jun 24, 2008 | 7:26 AM

I bet it will lower the cost of oil because it will give compitation to the Saudies.

Sarge read my blog
Jun 24, 2008 | 9:00 AM

Drill it. As stated, we have no control on who drills OUTSIDE of US territorial limits, and it doesn't matter if a spill occurs outside of our waters ... the environmental impact on our coastline will be EXACTLY THE SAME. At least letting our own oil industry do the drilling will give us oversight and control over how they do it and the protections they will have to follow.

As for lowering the price at the pump? Drilling CAN do it IF there is a caveat -- oil pumped within US territorial limits CANNOT be sold overseas, cannot be shipped overseas for refining, and any/all refined products CANNOT be sold overseas. That takes our own crude OFF the trading floor and eliminates speculation of oil futures with regard to our own oil supplies.

RNC08 read my blog view my photos
Jun 24, 2008 | 10:24 AM

Not bad Steve you got the #1 Saudi Arabia , and saying Mexico and Canada is understandable with all the expansion they have made but they are both still behind Venezuela and Turkey* at this moment in production ...Turkey has no oil to speak of and will/should be removed from the “Top 10 oil producers” as soon as Iraq is strong enough to start pumping its own oil again (and if we stop supporting the turkey army in North Iraq in its oil efforts) ..it was a bit of a trick question because Iraq has been hindered for a long time now (more than 10 years!) but the “top three Oil producing nations” (ad the three with the largest known reserves of oil) are 1 Saudi Arabia 2 Iraq 3 United States of America ....LOL

Drmonty read my blog view my photos
Jun 24, 2008 | 6:51 PM

LISTEN EVERYBODY.

CHINA IS VERY CLOSE TO DRILLING RIGHT OFF THE COAST OF CUBA FACING THE UNITED STATES.

DO YOU THINK THEY CARE ABOUT ANY POSSIBLE ENVRIONMENTAL IMPACT ON US.????? HELL NO.

WE OUGHT TO TAKE ALL THESE BASTARDS UP IN WASHINGTON, AND KICK THEIR ASSES RIGHT OUT THE DAMN DOOR. AND THAT INCLUDES OUR LOSER OF A PRESIDENT.... WE'VE BEEN LIED TO AND SCAMMED BY OUR OWN PEOPLE THAT WE ELECT TO LOOK AFTER OUR INTERESTS. DAMN LOSER GREEDY BASTARDS.

NATIONALIZE THE STINKING OIL FOR THE USA, AND PUT THESE OIL COMPANIES RIGHT OUT OF BUSINESS.

I MEAN IT.

IF YOU CAN CLOSE ALL THE UNNITED STATES AIRPORTS IN LESS THAN 90 MINUTES AFTER 911, THEN YOU CAN KICK THESE BASTARDS IN THE NADS
IN ONE DAY. THAT IS,,,, OF COURSE IF YOU'RE A REAL MAN. AND NOT A WUSS LIKE THAT ASSES WE HAVE IN WASHINGTON.

WE'RE TOO POLITICALLY CORRECT.

I LIKE OLD FASHIONED JUSTICE. IT CUTS THROUGH ALL THE RED TAPE.

DRMONTY FOR TEMPORARY RECIEVER OF THE USA.

FIRE CONGRESS, AND THE PRESIDENT. LITERALLY THROW THEM RIGHT OUT THE DOOR, AND JUST KEEP THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF FOR MILITARY SECURITY. EVERYBODY ELSE. OUT THE DAMN DOOR

DRMONTY OUT OUT OUT OUT.

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