RNC08's Blog

Conservative Liberterian is where I came out.

I don’t find these “definitions “ completely accurate..BIG Surprise huh???

While I find the conservative definition adequate as far as it goes,, I think that SOME of the Differences are misleading and MORE the result of Stereotyped impressions then in ANY basis in fact....
For instance..I believe that those qualities that you have listed for conservatives are DIRECTLY and ACTIVELY opposed to by Liberals while the qualities listed as Liberals are NOT exclusive TO Liberals..

I am a STAUNCH conservative yet I will defend civil liberties and FREE expression to the death..I JUST don’t ALWAYS agree with the LIBERALS’ expanded definitions of Civil Liberties and the ONLY Free speech that I abhore are those of the EXPANDED variety..Like the marching of Nazis through a Jewish Community of Holocaust survivers or the placing of a crucifix in a jar of urine..THESE are ACTIONS,, BORN of HATRED,, They are NOT speech..

I have YET to meet someone who is Conservative who is against personal Choice as enumerated in the Constitution..If ANYTHING,,WE Champion all efforts to sever the ties of the SLAVES of the Government and establish IN them a SENSE of Freedom of Choice..It is LIBERALS who remove choice with their programs..ONCE you get dependent on them ,, you have virtually NO choice but to REMAIN dependent on them.. WE believe in lending a hand to ANY who really NEED it,, we just don’t believe in creating a LIFESTYLE of NEED that can last from ONE Generation to the next....Of Course..IF you wish to restrict the subject of choice to ONLY cover abortion,, you MAY have a point..

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THAT'S the trouble with definitions..They draw lines of exclusion where NONE should be..

ACCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,

The political group that
agrees with you most is...

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CONSERVATIVE

Surprise! Surprise! LOL!

We tend to draw hard lines when it's really more of a gradual transition from ONE label to another..

I tend to think of Libertarians,, generally speaking,, in the same way that I think of Pregressives,, who are NO more and No Less Liberal for ALL their denials....SO many Lies have been spread about what it means to be a conservative that SOME people would rather NOT have to deal with all those negatives..So they CALL themselves something else and AVOID it altogether..I find MOST Libertarians to be conservative in the BEST traditions of Conservatism,, that is,,barring the anarchists..

In ANY event,,You're quite correct RN..Beleive it or NOT,, there's EVEN a little bit of Liberalism is the most "Full Blown" of Conservatives.. WE just keep a tight rein on it..LMAO..

I would have to agree with rexsmom, Independant Conservative Liberterian.... Whew

You're exactly right..RN..

Liberals don't WANT Liberty..Liberals TAKE Liberties to get what they WANT....

I'm a liberaltarian.

Just libertarian ? Not leaning left or right as well North ?
And point taken JD , I said NO on any form of censorship but agree that military intelligence at a time of war is something we can wait to see...but when we allow anything to be hidden from us we can never be sure what has been hidden....

Oh come on Norty, Ive read your Leftist pot stirring posts....

Only a sick mind could compare the necessary structure of a military organization to a political entity ! You must be hoping that no one will realize that a military organization and it dominion are compartmentalized while a government is in its nature externalized. RE: the military does not pose a threat to the citizenry only the government and or the government that controls the military pose a threat...
As far as your description of Liberal you are totally WRONG both by the proper definition and by the actual actions of contemporary Liberals in this country! RE: Democrats/liberals have filed more direct attacks on personal freedom that in the past 2 years alone that Republican/conservatives have in the past 80 years....

Government should not censor speech, press, media or Internet. Agree (censorship = communism)

Military service should be voluntary. There should be no draft. Disagree (If there are no volunteers, then what?)

There should be no laws regarding sex for consenting adults. Disagree (snuff films?)

Repeal laws prohibiting adult possession and use of drugs (While I feel that most drugs should be de-criminalized, other drugs like GHB should be strictly monitored)

There should be no National ID card. (I am undecided on this one.)

End "corporate welfare." No government handouts to business. Agree (How about no government handouts to anyone?)

End government barriers to international free trade. disagree ( I am not convinced on this one, feel free to enlighten me)

Let people control their own retirement; privatize Social Security. Agree (Let me invest my retirement like a 401k or my 403B and keep the government's hands off of it!)

Replace government welfare with private charity. Agree (Too much money spent on government welfare, let the private charities give a hand up, not a hand out!)

Cut taxes and government spending by 50% or more. Agree (These greedy bastages take too much of my money! Give it back damn it! I am all for a smaller government that interferes less).

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Considering that the military does NOT function independently but as a part of OUR Government,,I find it interresting that YOU list the Military as Second in size when in fact it's ONLY a part,, and a SMALL one at that,, of the largest example..The U.S.Government..

RNC08 and Hawkeye, permit me to help educate you both by suggesting that you read Max Weber's writings regarding the bureaucratic model. Your attempts to attack me with such words as "sick" are almost laughable since they are based on such ignorance.

Hawkeye, I said: "...how a bureaucratic organization is structured and functions" I DID NOT mention anything about "size" nor did I compare the church, government, or military. In fact, they are all three excellent examples of bureaucratic organizations as defined by Weber......any basic management course would lead you to that conclusion.....vertical vs, horizontal structures, functions, authority, staff-line relationships, etc.

RNC08, I didn't define a liberal. In fact I QUOTED YOU and then pointed out a couple of facts that seem to indicate that "liberals" don't really practice what they seem to represent according to your description/definition. GET IT? Again, I pointed out the hypocrisy of what liberals preach (compared to what they actually do).

LOL! Ok LQQKING thank you for clearing that up for me! I was beginning to worry about our little m&m! =)