LLRucker's Blog

Amen, Northton! As Americans we need to hold our news journalists to higher standards. By omitting the entire 'sermon' of Jeremiah Wright, they created a firestorm of controversy and placed Obama in an awkward position.
But, I guess that old adage, all's fair in love and war still holds true. But, we no longer have to wonder whose side Fox is on.

The Spirit of the message is still there. Just because he's paraphrasing a "white man" doesn't make it any less vile. I still believe after listening to him he has a deep resentment towards America although I don't think he's a racist.

As for Fox News, they are doing their job and I don't remember seeing, CBS, NBC, ABC or CNN put any of that information up either till it became in their best interest.

This really comes down to Obama, whom I too feel resents America. You don't surround your self with people you don't empathize with. So all in all I think the spirit of the message is what was truly at stake there. You can't quote someone and think that by doing that to make your point you absolve yourself of any guilt.

Sage, honestly, with things te way they are now; the housing market crashing down, the jobless rate increasing, oil prices skyrocketing, I venture to say there are a LOT of Americans harboring deep resentment of America and our government. I don't think that makes us un-American, exactly the opposite really. Only in America are we free to rail against our country and our governemt in open forums like this one.

Booggey, The Japanese were negotiating surrender. There were a few items to clear up.
Truman, being President, would have that info.

The US knew the attack was coming on Pearl Harbor. They did nothing to warn the commander that an attack was on the way.

OK - first, for the wives' tale of the US knowing that the attack on Pearl was imminant: I am no fan of FDR but no, he did NOT set up the US Navy and all of those sailors to die to get into a war that we were going to get in on anyway. Keep in mind that we were making money hand-over-fist on WWII before we got into it and had NO incentive to get in before we'd maximized our profits, until the attack gave us one. As well, the attack moved us from battleship and destroy Navy to aircraft Navy and submarine Navy, which was the key to our success in the Pacific. The Japanese had NO incentive to force that change.

Second, we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki because the Japanese refused to surrender unconditionally. Historians since have complained that there would have been no consequences to our accepting the Japanese defeat and leaving their government intact. I think the Gulf War taught us the fallacy of that argument.

As for Fox News owing ANYONE an appology, especially based on some none-argument that some portion of what Wright said may have been expressed differently by someone else, my argument to that is, please, put in context for me Wright's claims that we performed medical experiments on the Tuskegee Airmen, that HIV AIDS was created by the government to kill black people, and how this ties to a Christian sermon.

Because, honestly, I can't see you doing it.

The first thing Patton did after the war was to put the NAZI government officials in charge to minimize problems. The Japanese government was left mostly intact after the war.
One of the things Japan insisted on for a surrender was to keep the emperor. They kept him.
That proves that we made a big mistake in Iraq dismanteling the government and miitary.

Earlier in 1941, Roosevelt sent the Fying Tigers, a covert organization, to China. Their mission was to attack Japan as private citizens. They were released from duty in the AAC and paid by OSS.

In fact, the first thing Patton suggested after the defeat of Germany was the invasion of the USSR - but that we had listened to him.

I meant as far as running Germany.

Roosevelt was not going to allow a war with Russia. He gave them Eastern Europe just a few months earlier.

LL you seem to have an issue with the bombing of Japan. You continue to reference it everywhere you can. Those bombs brought an end to a war sooner than any other operation of carpet bombing for years would have.

I myself upon my retirement actually went to Hiroshima on my way to Osaka and Kyoto. The city to walk through gives you chills still today, but those two bombs ended what would have been a much longer and more deadly war....

Well and dandy I say.........however, then why did Barack feel so whatever and not make this OH SO CLEAR......I didn't hear him say anything like you just describe........I still say IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A WHITE PREACHER SAYING ALL THAT........my goodness instead of having bloggers bloggin........WE WOULD HAVE SHARPTON FIGHTING............lol and no i dont' think Fox should apologize either......after all NAME A PERFECT JOURNALIST???

LL, tt seems that when Don Imus made statements no one wanted to hear about all the good he has done. When a white man says something the blacks don't like it doesn't mater if he apolodizes or whatever. LL you think we whites are so bad, why don't you let me help you get to a black country where you can have all the freedom you are missing. Believe me, I can and will help you get there. Or why not just sit down with some families that lost loved ones at Pearl Harbor and tell them the Japanese bombing was out of "context" and when we dropped the bombs on Japan it was wrong and we should apologize. I'm sure all American veterans of war think thank God you are a minority in your way of thinking. Just think....We didn't drop those bombs on Germany because we took Hitler out of "context". I love the US of A and I am proud of all our veterans of war have done.

Enola Gay delivered a very important message.

It was ignored, so the message was delivered again.

The Emperor of Japan surrendered unconditionally, even though his army wanted to fight to the death of every man, woman, and child in Japan.

The Emperor of Japan made a very wise decision.

Wow, you're just determined to put Rev. Wright in a good light, aren't you? As it was said earlier, just because part of his sermons were originally (maybe) quoted by a white man, doesn't make it any less vile. Apparently, he agreed enough with the statments to spew it out again.

To hear you (and others, not just picking on you) tell it, you would think that the U.S. and Japan only engaged in 3 battles during WWII... Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Yes, then it would seem like "overkill".

The Japanese were the most fierce, vicious and determined opponents we had ever faced. To the Japanese, dying in combat was the highest form of honor (kind of reminds you of another enemy we currently face, doesn't it?). To surrender to your enemy was the ultimate shame. To them, those who surrendered were less than human. This is why our soldiers who surrendered to them were treated like dirt.

Ask any of the residents of China, Korea, Thailand, Burma, Indonesia (my grandparents could've told you some horror stories about life under Imperial Japanese rule), Phillipines, etc. if they feel bad that Japan was bombed.

The chickens have come home to roost or roast? They's at KFC chil'.