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Well, looks like Obama has managed to offend quite a few folks out there again.  I've posted the entire article below.  I don't like to do that, but as this website's links to their stories disappear quickly, I didn't have much of an option.  However, I've boldened the highlights to make it easier for those who like to skim, with the entire comment itself underlined.

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Pa. Voters Divided Over Obama Remarks

 

2008-04-14 21:40:51
By MARK SCOLFORO Associated Press Writer



 

SHENANDOAH, Pa. (AP) — Yes, some Democrats in Pennsylvania's Rust Belt communities were upset by Barack Obama's suggestion that voters there "cling to guns or religion" because of bitterness about their economic lot. But many more seem to think it was no big deal — and if there's a problem it's with the political slapfest that has followed.

 

Obama's comment, which the Illinois senator made during a San Francisco fundraiser last week, set off an exchange of insults between the final contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination as they vie for blue-collar support in the state's April 22 primary. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has criticized the comment as "elitist," while Obama has mocked the New York senator's own recent emphasis on support for gun owners' rights.

 

In interviews Monday in Pennsylvania communities like the ones to which Obama referred, Democrats on both sides of the race were divided over the controversy.

 

"It's so difficult to watch every word," said Mary Ellen Matunis, a Clinton backer from Shenandoah.

 

"I was not offended," she said. "Poor choice of words, but I think it was just misspoken."

 

Matunis, 56, is a retired teacher in this central Pennsylvania borough of barely 5,000 residents that was once a boom town of the anthracite coal industry. But that industry has been on the decline for longer than most residents have been alive, and the textile factories that followed are gone too.

 

Dennis Yezulinas, another Clinton supporter in Shenandoah, said he is more offended by the rhetorical fight that followed Obama's comment than by the remark itself.

 

"Not just for the good of the Democratic Party, but for the good of the country, they need to make it less contentious," said Yezulinas, a former state prison guard who has been laid off from a plant that manufactures doors in a neighboring town.

 

In the southeastern Pennsylvania community of Coatesville — a once booming steel city outside of Philadelphia that now has empty storefronts downtown — two Clinton supporters sharing a meal at a Coatesville restaurant said they felt Obama was wrong to stereotype small-town voters.

 

"It's like we're not smart enough to understand what the politicians are saying. It's an insult to our intelligence," said Susan Kamerdze, 50.

 

Mike Zemacke, 57, said that, while Coatesville has seen better days, he's not bitter. He said he used to work as a press operator before a disability led him to retirement.

 

"I'm just frustrated," he said. "I used to live a lot better than this."

 

At another Coatesville eatery, lifelong resident Armon Richardson said he remains firmly committed to Obama.

 

"We're getting in the silly season," said Richardson, 33, a computer analyst. "It's being overanalyzed."

 

In Pottsville, a city south of Shenandoah that also thrived during the coal boom and is now known as the home of Yuengling beer, coffeehouse owner Mary Ann Price, 56, said she is undecided about which candidate will get her vote in the primary, but that Obama's remarks won't affect her decision. She said she is more concerned about U.S. standing in the international community.

 

"The whole world hates us, and with good reason," she said.

 

Mike McGeever, 47, a Clinton backer who works for a neighborhood revitalization agency in Pottsville, called Obama's comment "uninformed, rather than elitist."

 

"To throw a blanket indictment out there against the people in this area, it is definitely patronizing," he said.

 

Truck salesman Bob Bildheiser, 49, said he is tentatively supporting Obama and that he agreed with the point that Obama was trying to make about the nation's economic problems.

 

"The people are bitter about the economy, about jobs, about the gas prices. It's terrible," he said.

 

At the California event, Obama said some small-town voters bitter about their economic circumstances "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

 

Clinton, who polls show still leading in the Pennsylvania primary, criticized the comment as "elitist and divisive," and suggested that it could cost Democrats the presidency if Obama were the nominee. Obama said he was disappointed by Clinton's criticism and questioned her opposition to the NAFTA free-trade agreement that some voters believe eliminated thousands of U.S. jobs.

 

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Obama...  its politicians, particuraly Marxists like yourself, that are the reason people "cling to guns and religion".    I don't think people are "misinterpreting" your comments at all.

Hillary... well, you get a pass on this one... this time. 

Ms. Mary Ann Price... Your comment is typical Liberal self-hatred.   Maybe "the whole world" is envious because the United States does not bow and scrape before the United Nations like most countries do.  Probably because we actually try to stand for what we believe is right, rather than just having the "follow the herd" mentality like most other nations.   Maybe we also like to look after our own interests as well, rather than looking after other nations' interests. 

Sadly, this will no longer be the case after the elections. 

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BrendaG read my blog view my photos
Apr 15, 2008 | 8:40 AM

Obama is a moron! I think he may have been deprived of oxygen in the birth canal! Hillary needs to leave the race so we can crucify this idiot and mop the floor with him when we are done! Now that sounds like fun! ya think? =)

J_Darrowin read my blog view my photos
Apr 15, 2008 | 5:00 PM

Deprived of oxygen... maybe. Hillary leaving the race? Nah, it's much more fun to me watching those two continue to attack each other. ;)

Meb452m read my blog
Apr 15, 2008 | 7:40 PM

I knew Obama would shoot himself in the foot, he's exceeded my expectations though. He's already put a couple of slugs in both ! He's hobbling and that's slowed him down. Now if we can just get him to consider the Air Force motto : Aim Higher! Good post J_D !

RNC08 read my blog view my photos
Apr 16, 2008 | 8:25 AM

I find it odd that we are seeing so much about this comment by Obama but the actual comment itself has been lost , he said more than just “religion and guns” he also blamed the economy for driving resentment of imports and illegals. This statement should be getting replayed but as is always the case with Obama only his rebuttal is getting air time....the media defends Obama from himself.

rexsmom read my blog view my photos
Apr 16, 2008 | 8:50 AM

He's a piece of work.

J_Darrowin read my blog view my photos
Apr 16, 2008 | 6:45 PM

"At the California event, Obama said some small-town voters bitter about their economic circumstances "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Was this the entire comment you were referring to, RNC, or was there more to it? This is the only bit I found, though I didn't really search too hard at the time.

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Apr 19, 2008 | 8:34 PM

Well, McCain now has a 10 point lead over either of those bickering fools.

Gotta love it!

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Apr 19, 2008 | 8:37 PM

I posted a blog on this in Tampa.

I refuse to waste time here posting.

It is totally a Fox people blog now.....

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Apr 19, 2008 | 8:38 PM

Which reminds me. I should be in Tampa now.....

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