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Well..ONCE again the Left turns out to be their own worst enemy..

There are many ways to guage success in these debates.

One can cite the MANY erroneous statements made by Biden and call THAT a success for Palin..

One can cite Palin’s so called avoidances of certain questions and mark THAT as a negative for her..

As usual..BOTH sides can and inevitably WILL claim that it was THEIR side that won this debate hands down and they will EACH cite the MANY reason why YOU should think so too....

But Here’s the thing..These debates aren’t measured by talking points per se’..Unless there’s an OBVIOUS gaffe or outrageous lie or some other extraordinary point to make the measure of success will boil down to a simple matter of Perception,, or Impression..

It DOESN’T really matter that Palin came off as the winner to those who SIDED with Palin in the First Place and the SAME is EQUALLY true of Biden..

In the end what matters is how these two came across with those who haven’t made up their minds yet..

The Left and their willing partners in the Anti-Palin MSM went ALL out in these last two weeks with their campaign to portray Palin as Down and Out..UNABLE to recover from the Highly edited Interviews with Couric and Gibson…

The Result??

Because of their OVERKILL,, Palin didn’t HAVE to WIN the debate in order to WIN the debate..

She didn’t HAVE to stand toe to toe with Biden and PROVE that she was UP for the task.. But she did EXACTLY THAT and she did FAR FAR more..

The fact of the matter IS that Palin EXCEEDED all MEDIA CREATED expectations of her while Biden merely rose to the level of his and THAT’S a LOSS for Biden..

WE were left to believe that Biden’s Biggest concern was that HE didn’t want to look TOO bad by Beating Up on Palin too much.. Turns out he need NOT have worried himself over that at all..

BECAUSE of the Media Created HYPE over the Obama/Biden ticket,,we have been LED  to expect FAR  MORE from them and in THAT Both Obama and Biden have FAILED miserably in these debates so far......THEY have come up WAY short of the mark and THUS,,Way Short of expextations.. THAT is the inescapable IMPRESSION..

Palin Proved herself at LEAST the Equal to the hardened Politician with Decades of experience behind him..

And she PROVED that she could BEST him at his OWN game..And she HAD to DO it AGAINST the odds..

It IS Impressions that WIN these debates and Palin has shown herself to be a VERY Impressive adversary after all......

 

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RandyLoo read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2008 | 12:39 PM

She is NEW..that is what we like that is what we need, that is so refreshing...all these buffoons have had many years to get us where we are and none of them are trusted...give us about 600 or 700 male and females Sarah Palins..get rid of all crooks and you will see this country prosper again.
I was disappointed that she didn't call GlobullWorming a bunch of bunk, I hate the carbon cap crap, she kept blaming Wall St for the Economic Mess and that really really really is not the whole truth,nothing but the truth..her and McCain need to call these fools out. But I realize they weren't worried about the content of her debate they were more concerned about her presence and delivery.

Hawk, did you catch Oreilly with Barney Frank last night? OMG Oreilly called him every name in the book.

RandyLoo read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2008 | 12:45 PM

catch the video of Oreilly/Frank on Drudge...LMAO

Hawkeye read my blog
Oct 3, 2008 | 1:12 PM

I caught the O'Reilly reeming of Franks..
I caught the thrashing of Biden by Palin.. and,,
I caught the smashing of Alan Colms by Dick Morris..
TRULY..it was a WONDERFUL day for Truth,,JUSTICE and the American Way...LMAO..

Yeah Loo..I'm a BIT disappointed in the McCain Campaign LEANING in that PURELY Democrat tactic of Populism Class/Economic Envy..

It IS the DEMOCRAT way to pit Americans against Americans and as YOU say,,in THIS case,, they're NOT even pointing in the RIGHT Direction..

McCain is NOT the Best that this country has to Offer,,he's JUST the BEST that WE have to CHOOSE from...

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2008 | 5:37 PM

Palin was awesome. She did not dodge questions, as many have said, she merely gave short answers and then used her time to go back to issues she believed were important.

All Biden did was stutter and tell lies the entire debate. How pathetic.

To be honest, if I was undecided, and I am not, I would still say Palin handed him his hat!

oldvamp read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2008 | 8:32 PM

You also must consider that McCain had the opertunity to disqualify the moderator, but felt comfortable enough to turn gov. Palin loose anyway. In the event you are unaware, the moderator is in the process of writing a book on the Obama's. Not that she would be biased or favor one side over the other or nothing, right?
Palin was awsome. I have more confidence in her serving now than ever even though I never doubted her as McCains first choice.

1foxblog read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 2:05 PM

Their attempt to establish and new "carbon credit" clearing house under the guise of cleaning up the planet and in reality just a scheme to syphon off cash and create a new layer of control and regs and administration. Which will not benifit the planet in any way whatsoever

1foxblog read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 2:24 PM

another instance where left is attempting to con us

It is true that we are experiencing climate change. It is true that coast lines will change. It is true that the very polarity of the earth may totally reverse. These things are all true and have all happened over and over again over the existance of the planet. It is not true that they are happening more rapidly or wildly than any other time in the history of the planet. It is not true that we can somehow put a stop to them. It is true that we should research them and understand what is likely to come and to prepare for it and adapt. Not throw up radical man made "chemical", biological "solutions that are extremely expensive and highly likely to really screw up nature.

The consortium of "scientists" who met and made the "proclamation" and expected all the world. At least the uneducated world, to swallow were not mostly geologists, they were not mostly climatologists, they were not mostly meteorologists. They were politically motivated people with some random science backgrounds "one was a gynecologist" specifically brought together by politically motivated people. Check into Gores "science" education. (It is virtually non existant, yet he proclaims to have invented the internet and now he is the expert on the very planet and all its intricate workings with regard to climate). Talk about delusions of adequacy.

Ok then you may ask. If true why? Why would all these "noble" people get together and work tirelessly on this "noble project to save the world".

The answer is the same as it is for every

1foxblog read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 2:32 PM

Ok then you may ask. If true why? Why would all these "noble" people get together and work tirelessly on this "noble project to save the world".

The answer is the same as it is for everything. The dollar, the euro, the yen. These people want to establish a new "Bank". They want to find a way to siphon off more of your hard earned cash. Where is the cash? Energy - Oil and gas and big industry have the cash. What is trendy - being green is trendy (and I might ad a truely noble pursuit, I totally agree we need to conserve, we need to not pollute, we need clean food, we need clean air, I support very strongly actual efforts to clean up this trash dump we call a planet) Unfortunately the global warming folks motives are not as pure. Plain and simple they find a trendy topic that they figure they can rally folks around, they come up with a bogus solution to a real situation that people around the world are thinking about they sprinkle in some political folks they can pass off as "knowledgeable about these things" They collect a few celebritys that have zero knowledge of geology, geophysics, meteorology, climatology. They make these celebs feel intelligent by prepping them with bogus science and making them feel noble by being a part of the "cause" These celebs have no time to research whether they are being fed a pile of BLEEP, they have no scientific background but it sounds good, it sounds noble and they have excess cash and they want to give back. They sign on. They unknowingly help the political folks put out propaganda that truly insults your intelligen

1foxblog read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 2:35 PM

intelligence. Why?? Why?? How do you make a buck doing this?

To establish a "Bank" that they will profit from which will settle "carbon credits". How will this work. Say a factory wants to ramp up production and pollute a little or a lot more than they can under current regulations. Say Gore wants to fly around the world in his private jet a little more and not feel guilty about the amount of pollution he is dumping on you. Those folks want to spend money to "buy" carbon credits. Then there is the owner of several acres of virgin forest they arent cutting down and developing. They are good citicens with excess "carbon credits" because their land is pure and they don't pollute. So they can sell their credits to Gore so he can pollute more and have the "carbon neutral footprint" he is so proud of. Sounds good so far? The new "Bank" for a "small fee" - yeah right when was a bank fee ever small? Will police these transactions and be the clearing house. The forest guy goes to the bank, he deposits his credits and gets cash(minus a small fee) the polluter - Gore goes to the bank and buys credits pays for them (plus a small fee for clearing) and happily goes on to pollute to his hearts content with no guilt. Imagine the infrastructure you will now have in place - administration building popping up all over to manage this new "very important task" never mind that all this new infrastructure has environmental costs, not to mention all the new regs and red tape (probably have to cut down a whole forest to keep up with the paperwork - hey but thats ok just bu

1foxblog read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 2:36 PM

(probably have to cut down a whole forest to keep up with the paperwork - hey but thats ok just buy some carbon credits and everyone will smile) .

Unfortunately net net the planet becomes more polluted, not less. Buying credits from lands that werent going to be developed anyway and using it as justification to pollute more near the factory doesnt help anyone. If we simply gradually tighted up the regs that exist today in an economic way that companies can bear, changing the culture through our purchases as is begining to happen. We might actually begin to have a clean up. Unfortunately this is not as glamorous as getting high and having a huge rally for an imaginary cause and feeling powerful in your early years when everything else in the world makes you feel lost. Wake up and see that you are being used, so so used by unscrupulous political types who are taking advantage of your sweet altruistic nature. These folks are everything you hate, but they are effectively using your causes as a tool to manipulate you because they know you will never do the research, it will make you feel noble and powerful in a world where you have no control and in the end they will rake in the cash.. (one small fee at a time, one new administration building at a time.) You will wake up in your 50s and say BLEEP. How come every penny I earn goes out in taxes and fees.

If you dont believe me look at the Hillary "managed care scheme" Where is the cash? Doctors have the cash. What is trendy? What is the public concern? Health care too expensive. Answer establish a "Bank" H

1foxblog read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 2:37 PM

If you dont believe me look at the Hillary "managed care scheme" Where is the cash? Doctors have the cash. What is trendy? What is the public concern? Health care too expensive. Answer establish a "Bank" HMO, managed care. Did your healthcare costs go down? No they went up. Did your care improve? No it went down cause Docs arent making any money under the burden of red tape and regs. You are lucky now if you see them for 5 min. Docs get out of the business cause its not worth it.

Hey wait if Docs arent making any money and I am paying more where is it going? You guessed it, that unnecessary new layer of BLEEP they call managed care, HMOs etc. Lots of new admin building lots of paper to push. Are you better off? no you are worse off. Is your doc better off no he quit under the workload. Thank you Hillary - such a service to mankind. Can't wait to see the roll out of the "Single source provider fun and games you have cooked up for us".

Wake up folks. Dont be used. Lets get sincerely interested in the environment, clean up our act in an intelligent way. Stop listening to Gore and company Biden - WE KNOW GLOBAL WARMING IS CAUSED BY MAN - Dont feed us Bullsh*** and dont pretend to care when we know what you care about. HMMMMMM where is the best place to syphon of cash and gain political control at the same time This is your only concern, we know it, we are on to you, and we are spreading the word. Get used to it.

ANGELMEDIC40 read my blog view my photos
Oct 4, 2008 | 7:56 PM

I also like the fact that the MEDIA is hitting on the lies BIDEN had made during the debate.

Biden looked liked he enjoyed being smacked around by Palin.

GOOD JOB Sarah Palin!

American_Man read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 8:49 PM

I think all politicion play with the truth, are to politically correct and do whats good for their careers and not for the American people. Sort of like being in an exclusive country club, doing anything or saying anything to keep their memebership.

MrAsphalt read my blog
Oct 5, 2008 | 9:51 AM

Hey ya'll... I did hear your dear McLame will grant 20 Million illegal immigrants amnesty...
Who is shooting themselves in the foot now????

shadows read my blog
Oct 5, 2008 | 10:46 AM

Hawkeye, your statement: "... Palin didn’t HAVE to WIN the debate in order to WIN the debate.." is a masterstroke of spin. I hope that the people at FoxNews are reading and are able to see that you have the talent that they need.

Never mind that every poll that I have seen shows Biden as the winner of the debate.

I must admit that there was little that Palin said that was surprising. In fact, she said most of the same things over, and over, and........well you get the idea.

BTW, did you notice that Palin is so determined to carry on the traditions of Bush that she purposely mispronounces the word "nuclear" just like GW does? I'm not sure, but I suspect that Rexsmom and DaytonaFrank do as well.

Hawkeye read my blog
Oct 5, 2008 | 12:04 PM

Yeah,,I DID notice that..HOW can you miss it with everybody centered on THAT as their determining factor on who it was that won or lost..

Just forget the many LIES that Biden got caught mouthing off...Center it ALL on Palin....

Interrestingly enough..the Polls ALWAYS seem to slant a bit to the left..WHY is that I wonder...

As for the Nucular ,,

NOT NEARLY as annoying as Obama's mispronunciation of Pakistan as POK-EE-stan though...LMAO..

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Oct 5, 2008 | 8:45 PM

Poor little shadows. His childish mind took away only one thing from the debate.

Governor Palin pronounced nuclear in a way he did not agree with.

His "superior" mind cannot conceive of the fact that many Americans mispronounce that word. He doesn't seem to realize that words are pronounced differently depending on what part of the country you are in.
He doesn't seem to realize that no matter how you pronounce "nuclear" the listener will know what you mean.

But no. Palin mispronounced it in his eyes, therefore that makes her ineligible to be vice president! What an idiot!

But his pathetic bias shows in the fact that is ALL he can rag on the Governor with!

He has the mind of a child. Just look at his comment. Total stupidity.

"every poll that I have seen" What childish nonsense! LMFAO!!!!

Hawkeye read my blog
Oct 6, 2008 | 9:09 AM

Shadows,,Like ALL Liberals,, thinks that the world SHOULD revolve around them..They get petty and irrelevant when they find out the truth..

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Oct 7, 2008 | 12:22 AM

Not only petty, but downright childish!

Every poll he has seen. Just absorb that!

He has not seen too many polls!

Perhaps just one. The one in his head! LOL!

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