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Here's a Dirty little Secret..

The DEMOCRATS didn't NEED a SINGLE Republican Vote to get this passed..NOT a ONE...

Yes, I think her little speech did kill it for Republicans, although, they didn't need one single Republican vote to get it passed.

Her grandstanding on this subject is kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

The real story here.. Before McCain was called in there were only 4 votes from the GOP, and after McCain came in AFTER being called to help, they got it up into the 60s! Yet they NEVER had 70 votes from the right, and Its looks like Pelosi knew it wouldn't make it even after calling for a vote anyways, and out of frustration, blew her lid.

Now Democrats wanna spin it. "But BOTH sides are spinning!" Oh hold on now... if this was TRUELY the Democrats reaching out, then why instead of 12 more votes from the Right instead of just 6 more votes from BOTH sides then? Surely that would be much easier to break it up would it not?

IF they had the votes and it was indeed 12 gone from the right.. then Pelosi railroaded it because they didn't want McCain's success of bringing all but 4 initial votes to the deal and looking like the good guy. That would have all but destroyed Obama! So.. once again AGENDA before country from the left then killed it.

94 DEMOCRATS voted AGAINST this Bill..Sounds to ME as though they had a LOT of work to do on THEIR side before they go around spouting off about the other...

You know..I keep hearing that “It’s NOT a time to point fingers and place blame,,it’s time to work out a SOLUTION”..

Sounds pretty reasonable,, doesn’t it??
ALL noble and open minded and all..

The Problem IS that the People MOST guilty of bringing this crises ON ( Dodd,, Franks,, Gorelick,, Waters,,etc…) in the FIRST Place are the One’s who’re Going to be IN CHARGE of the money from ANY “Solution” that gets passed and what’s the FIRST thing that they try to do??

Allocate 20% of any Profits to Obama’s CRIMINAL Community Organization ,,,ACORN..

Pelosi blows a lot of things!!

Did Pelosi jeopardize the vote? No. She told the truth, plain and simple. It's the cowboy economics and greed as a family value of the Bush administration and the GOP that created this mess -- and now everyone's expected to pay for it. White-collar corporate welfare, is what it is.

Pelosi has been out of control since she became the speaker. She got a little power and it went to her head.
She is the root cause of everything that has happened in the last two years. Her hatred of the president has clouded her mind so badly that she has forgotten about the average citizen, and no longer cares, if she ever did to start with.

I hate to say this people but the ECONOMY can be manipulated by Government Actions or INACTIONS.. Else we wouldn't EVEN be HAVING this discussion about a Government Solution..

The INSTRUMENT of that Government Minipulation is NOT the President but the CONGRESS of the United States..

It can be PROVEN the extent of the Democrat culpability regarding our Current Crises..( If there WAS a SINGLE Republican involved you know DAMN well that HE would be in the News DAILY )

Do you REALLY think that the Party that has CONSISTENTLY Campaigned on Doom and Gloom Crises after Crises for the last 50 years didn't ENGINEER this "Disaster" to occur just 40 Days before a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION??

THEY were willing to LOSE a WAR to WIN an election..Is THIS so hard to believe???

mscsailor.. of that 95 members on the left that Pelosi didn't get include five Chairmans of committees, many of her fellow California leaders, a couple sub-committee chairs, and then told the ones up for re-election they could vote against.
(IOWs we will get the Republicans to cover that for you..)

Sen. Kerry tonite defends the liberal view. Said when he ran he wanted regulation on Freddie/Fannie, but as a minority Dems couldn't do anything because of the 60 vote rule. Then says then after 2006 STILL couldn't get anything past 60 votes.

Here is what America wants.. Since liberals existed, everytime there was a crisis, they ALWAYS wanted someone's head on a platter. But not this time. No, we need to fix a problem, and not fix blame. OH SORRY! You want my children's future and likely my grandchildren's as well? I want Franks, Schumer, and Dodd's head on a platter for it!

CynPro.. this will have an effect on the little people, but don't take my word for it... just trust the word of your favorite libs then...

Asked about Monday’s vote on the bailout bill, House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn tells reporters: “We haven’t started whipping.” Asked if he’s going to start whipping, Clyburn says: “The speaker hasn’t told me yet. I do what I’m told.”

Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.

On motion that the House agree to the Senate amendment to the House amendment to the Senate amendment Failed by recorded vote: 205 - 228


Note the "motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection." If the Democrats had wanted this to pass, they would not have said that. The procedural guts of this is that any vote in the House can be "reconsidered" by a motion to reconsider that is in order from a member of the prevailing side for two legislative days. By tabling this, that option is off the table.

The simplest option for Pelosi would have been to wait an hour, watch the markets collapse for a while, scare 12 Democrats and hold a revote. Surely some Republicans would have participated in this.--nods to redstate.


The dems wanted it to fail.

I thought the Bush, McCain Georgia fiasco was a valiant
effort by republicans to focus voters on military demeanor.

I cant believe people still don't see the correlation between Bush's economic policy and the current economic crisis.

Anyone who says that it is the fault of the democratic controlled house is either misled or brainwashed. This avalanche we are facing started years ago with the Bush administration's choice to support big business rather than working families.

I think right now the faulty realization of the republicans trickle down theory, giving surplus tax money back to win votes and alienating and breeding animosity overseas and at home are coming back to bite all Americans right where it counts. The sad thing is it will take a full blown recession to make some republicans realize what is at stake.

I talked with a couple staunch republicans who both said the same thing, "The problems we are facing are a direct result of the presidents mismanagement of government." That stems from the fact that he had no experience at all with the economy what so ever before taking office.

Which begs the question, "Which is going to be the better of two evils?" If in eight years the Republican party blew the surplus the Clinton adminstration and Republican House had accumulated can we trust putting another in office? Especially one that seems woefully out of touch with our economic situation?

What about Obama? His lack of experience is troubling considering the gravity of the situation that faces us? The theory that, "any change in regime is better than nothing," is an alarming one.

With both candidates we here about change but my big concern is this, "At what price?" A

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+85% plus of Businesses in America are owned by corporation both at home and abroad.

Way to go Sageman Wright...

Way to turn a PROVABLE Democrat CREATED crises into just another one of your typical boring Bushwhackin' rants..

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